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May 21, 2005

Negotiations, Cultures and Power-The Orange Exercise

Did you ever wonder why people hoard things they don't even need? Why people seem to be disinterested in something until another person expresses interest? Why people guard their budgets, resources and manpower. Why people care if you are on their land, even if they have quite enough for themselves? Why the guy in the office who has employees that are not working at capacity will not allow you to get them to assist on a project that is at deadline?

I think this is a very good thing to think about. It is very linked to culture too. In one of my business classes we did a small experiement with an orange, and it went like this:

With 30 people in the class, only 15 get an orange. The object is to negotiate on who will get what they want with regard to the orange.

One person gets a small piece of paper with rules for negotiation on it. It instructs them to negotiate for this orange. The reason why this person needs it, is because they are going to a party and have been asked to bring a dish that they are famous for making. They need the orange rind/peel (the outside of the orange only), but not the orange pieces. However, they may not tell their negotiating partner that they only need the rind/peel, nor are they allowed to tell their partner the truth about WHY they need it. They have to try to get the whole thing.

The other person gets a piece of paper with rules for negotiations too. He needs the inside of the orange (the slices) because he has been asked to make a dish that he is famous for making to bring to a party as well. He does not need the rind/peel, only the inside/slices. He is not allowed to tell his partner that he only needs the inside, nor allowed to tell the truth about WHY he needs the orange at all.

The two partners pair up and the orange is arbitrarily given to one of the negotiators. Negotiations begin and last for 10 minutes.

In my class, most people did not reach agreement. The orange was still in the hands of the person that had it to begin with. Most people did not break the rules and tell their partner why they needed it, what they were going to do with it, or what part of it they needed. Some people, split the orange in half....these tended to be non-americans. Only one person out of 30 actually broke the rules and told their partner WHAT PART of the orange they needed. Two told their partner WHY they needed it. About six told their partner sob stories that convinced their partner their need was greater. Two people simply gave their partner the whole orange without knowing why or what part they needed...both of the two were Chinese who were negotiating with one African and one Turkish guy...and later they both said they simply gave the orange to them because they did not think THEY had a good reason for wanting the orange at all. None of the 4 Americans gave up their orange at all.

What we learned was about power and why people cling to things they don't really need very much. The orange symbolized a lot for me, and I wrote my "what did you learn this semester essay" about that ten minute exercise because it was very insightful for me, though no one else seemed to be so engrossed by it. The man I negotiated with had the orange, and he was from Haiti. He would not give it up, and neither of us broke the rules. He had three friends in this class with him, and the three were from Haiti or the Islands.

The next week, I asked him outright why he didn't give me the orange, and he said "It was a pride thing. My friends told me not to give up my orange, because they were not going to either." As it turned out though, one of them actually did agree to split his orange with his partner, and they teased him about it before they found out what the exercise was all about.

It was interesting to see all of the Indians and Asians deal with the orange negotiation, because they produced the majority of compromises. I always wondered afterwards what they learned from that about other cultures who were not so willing to compromise that day. The women were no different either...culture was the predicting factor overall.

We all cherish our power and resources. We don't want to give up any information to a person who might compete with us. We don't want to admit to why we need something or what it is we need, if we even know ourselves...and many times we really don't know at all. We always try to make the deal work out best for us...all the time...every time. Individualism and tribalism served cultures well in the past century but now that we are ALL competing with cultures that have always known how to consult and collaborate we are not doing so good. These cultures do not consider compromise a fault in character, but instead a good thing to do, and they do not always have to have it all their way, or have it ALL or risk losing face. When we compete directly with these cultures we find that the old ways we cling to are losing out. We are proud, and stubborn and we cannot give an inch because it might give the other guy the advantage. Everything is guarded for our people alone to use or have part in, and this has given us nothing but war and a lack of cohesiveness that would lead to success in this new global economy, where collaboration is like a currency, and it can buy things for all of us that do not involve money transfers, but instead knowledge transfers.

The lesson for me is to share as much as I can, and encourage others to do the same. The cumulative effect will be more for everyone, because more value is put into the system...and we are a system...we can no longer deny that what happens in Madagascar directly effect us, in fact recently it impacted the the price of vanilla ice cream (Madagascar is where vanilla is extracted from orchids). We are linking in global supply chains, at every level, big companies, small companies and even some individuals are in direct competition. Those who are not linked are NOT HAPPY...and we must work to link everyone so that each gets the piece of the pie/orange that they need. This is sort of knowledge marxism. A global structure that provides the tools for those who cannot afford them otherwise, teaches the skill needed to use the tools, but then relies on them to come up with the best way to use those tools. It is also knowledge capitalism, because it allows free expression of value added ideas to enter a free market. Nothing holds you back if you are connected, but everything holds you back if you are not connected. We have to recognize that as long as people are disempowered, and prevented from accessing the tools to be successful, that the world will be very dangerous, but when we are all part of someone's supply chain, and we are all sharing because it is to our advantage to put ideas out there and take other people's ideas in, in order to improve our own ideas, then we will really be on our way to repairing the world, and the tyrants will not be able to win anymore....because technology will allow the people to simply go around them.

25 Comments:

Blogger Rancher said...

Wow. We Americans are competitive, it’s a bulwark of capitalism. We are also very generous. But in a class where the objective was not clear, I’d have bargained like hell.

11:32 PM  
Blogger hiwa said...

good to see you posting again,
just noted that my blog is still in the list of Kurdish ones, there has been an update, so "mind the language please!" :) lagall rrez

10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question about the relationship between "Mordechai" and "Mardokh" names. According to the following article, "Former Israeli defence minister Yitzhak Mordechai was born in Akre.(South Kurdistan)". The second name is corresponds to a well established religious and scholar family in eastern kurdistan, though muslim. However after reading the article, I thought that may be that family have had to convert under pressure.
Do you have any information about this.
Thanks.
Heja

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the link

http://www.kerkuk-kurdistan.com/nuceyek.asp?ser=4&cep=1&nnimre=4708

Regards.
Heja

3:23 PM  
Blogger yochanan said...

heja thank you for the link

3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is one of the few pieces on your blog I really liked reading (there are some others, but we have major differences of opinion on the subjects).

I must say I agree with you wholehearted (for once). While capitalism can be good, too much competition can be bad. Sometimes cooperation is necessary and beneficial and thats whay socialism has some positive notes alongside the negative ones. While I am in Computers, I did take a business course and the subject of cartels was covered (it wwas a microeconomics course). It turns out that even without cartels companies will "blindly" cooperate to do things like fix prices (i.e. they guess that the others will follow suite) because a price war that goes below the production price makes everyone lose.

Cultural differences indeed play a difference in approach, but generalization can be shaky ground: I am sure that it depends on personal outlook as well. I think that you are really hitting the nail on the head with what's wrong with the world and the people in it.

Not to be a nag, but does this mean you are taking a different outlook on the future for Kurds and everyone else in the world?

Final question: what can we do to alleviate this problem? I notice that in your class's setup, honesty and openess weere ruled out (but of course people break rules when necessary). Wouuld this be a key component?

1:11 AM  
Blogger Emmunah said...

Anonymous said...
I have a question about the relationship between "Mordechai" and "Mardokh"

I went to check that out, and spent hours trying to find out. I know that many Jews who moved to Israel, or fled there, depending on what happened, changed their last names as they learned Hebrew. Everyone goes to an ulpan so that no matter where they are from they can communicate in one language. But, I could not find any information on Yitzak Mordechai's parents, only when he was born, and that he was 5 when they came to Israel. One of the reasons is to protect the people left behind. If you know someone's grandparents or aunts and uncles are still in a place that is dangerous for them, then you don't want to have your last name connected to them because it might get them killed. If I find anything I will let you know.

8:03 PM  
Blogger Emmunah said...

Anonymous: About the orange excercise. There were two things that I really kept thinking about after that negotiation. The first one was "pride and honor"...that was the reason that no one wanted to give up their orange. Pride makes people do stupid things sometimes, but in this case, it was so highlighted. I thought of all the times that people would not give up extra things they had to help out another, things they really didn't need, but they guarded them jealously. I thought of how many times I have seen computer people guard their knowledge so that everyone will always need them, instead of sharing some knowledge so that people could fix the little things themselves. This bugged me because I see sharing knowledge as a form of putting a puzzle together so that when it is finished everyone has something better than they started with. So pride is often a feeling that gets in the way of doing what makes sense...but not always...so don't think I'm saying this is true in every case.

The second thing that bugged me was WHY IN THE HELL DID WE ALL OBEY THOSE RULES! I felt like I was in the Milgram studies at Yale in the 1940's where people were told by authority figures to shock someone in another room, and they obeyed. WHY? If we had broken the rules and just told the person what we needed and why we needed it, we would have been more successful in our negotiation and there would have been so many more people who had exactly what they needed.

I am a knowledge socialist:). I think people should be given as much knowledge as they seek, and can absorb, and as many tools to get that knowledge as we can possibly provide. But I am a capitalist, because it is what they do with those tools that is their responsibility. You know that saying "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and give him the tools to fish and he eats for life". That's what I mean, but someone else said it better than me.

I hope that my views are always evolving, otherwise I am not growing, but I think I am still saying the same thing...Kurdistan has to be built! No one can wait around until the powers tha be decide to give Kurds a country. That means you have to have some warriors and a lot of people willing to pick up a shovel, a computer, a book and chalkboard, a welding rod, a satelite dish (even homemade ones work) and get to work doing the building. That is what makes a country...there are plenty of people living in many countries, like Lesotho or Swaziland, and they are just as unhappy with the country as without, because a country is not just a border, it's a whole system that either works or doesn't. I would rather have a Kurdistan the size of Hong Kong with their economy, life expectancy, hopes and dreams, and forward looking people than a country the size of Chad with nothing going on but the desert locusts and buzzards flying overhead. Make sense?

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one can wait around until the powers tha be decide to give Kurds a country.

The world is the orange emmunah. Kurds want a peice of it, but so does everyone else in the region. You can keep fighting to grab what you want and more or you could try a different way.

Isn't that the point of this blog entry: cooperation? Do you want to beat your opponent in the head until they lose grip on the orange or do you want to try something new?

5:11 AM  
Blogger Emmunah said...

Swara, the free market is good, but some things have to be made fairer to more people. It's not fair to have people starving in this world, who cannot learn because they cannot eat, or get health care. It's not good if you have companies that are not good global citizens, and use child slaves and illegal labor that they put in danger. There has to be some checks on the system...and I think we all need to be more aware of the people that we can't see, or hear from, because they do not have internet or a voice in the more developed world. I want to bring those people food, housing, knowlege and hope too.

Anonymous: I don't know if you have any better ideas. Please...you seem smart enough to have some...so please contribute your vision? If you were a Kurd, what would you do? It's not enough to live safely someplace, and not be in danger and tell someone they don't need an army. It would be like me telling you to go to the worst neighborhood in your region without any policeman. Would you do that? So, you are right that the world is the orange in some respects (although, the earth is flat again you know:). You just tell me what you think will really work and that way, both of us will put our vision out in the marketplace of ideas. But, can you get a blog first? Or at least a name?

5:50 AM  
Blogger Wladimir van Wilgenburg said...

I think free market works very well, but not in poor countries where they destroy local economies. I rather have "Localisation" then "globalisation", if you people get what I mean. Not localisation like protecting your own market, but that every local economy develops and not that everything turns in one global, because I think such a thing is almost impossible to control.

9:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

swara:
If the members of a team of people are competing against each other for recognition, how sucessfull do you think the team will be against teams in which the members are working in harmony? Competiton can be detrimental--which implies capitalism can be detrimental (not necessarily always true).

So Emmunah, that's my idea. You understand the idea, or you would not have titled your blog entry "Negotiations, Cultures and Power". We only disagree on which areas the idea can be applied. Why is it a good idea for an orange exercise but bad for nation-building? And how will having my own blog/name affect this?

9:47 PM  
Blogger Emmunah said...

If team members are competing against one another, they will be ineffective. If no one has one team and two team to compete with then there is no striving toward anything. Teams of people, working together, to do better at the Olympics are competing against others teams. Companies compet against other companies and this makes all of us adopt "best practices" derived from their accomplishment.

Competition is good when it is used as a motivator to improve everyone. It acts as a sharpening stone for the mind and for new ideas. We dream up new ways, improved ways, and more efficient ways because we are in competition. This is why socialism/communism doesn't work very well. Competition, even in teams, is not encouraged, but discouraged.

anonymous: I believe in groups of people, you use the word nation building, but that assumes their are nations right? Okay, but there is no Kuristan nation to the rest of the world. I am advocating cooperation among Kurds and supporters to build a Nation. I want Kurds to win their nation by making it the best place in the region, filled with great people, doing great things, in great schools, and great businesses.

This requires Kurds put aside rivalry, past grievances, and work very hard among themselves and make deals, and do business with all their neighbors only if, it is good for Kurdistan.

If that's what you are saying, then we are agreeing.

5:51 PM  
Blogger yochanan said...

shalom emmunah

I stopped by to say hi.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a nice kurdish forum

discuss

http://www.thekurdistani.com/forum/

12:29 AM  
Blogger yochanan said...

I miss your posts

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